There's a reason people who don't really know the details of this case will 90% of the time say they think the parents are guilty of 'something'. Because they were bombarded by a RDI media circus and it made them biased against the parents innocence before they even knew the basic facts of the case. The woman said that on Christmas Eve day in 1996, JonBent said Santa had told her he was going to make a secret visit to her after Christmas. The longer he stayed in the house and the more things he touched, the more danger he would be in. Its also believed that because of the initial belief that the Ramseys had something to do with JonBents murder, other leads were neglected by authorities. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. They filmed him on the 21st and 22nd of December and left before the party on the night of the 23rd. I can make some of the smaller type out but it would be nice to read it all properly. Santa Claus, A.K.A Bill McReynolds recruited a younger male to kill JonBenet and film it or take pictures for him. Then there is the statement from the mother of a friend of JonBents. You are putting a lot of stock in what may be a throw away line by a 6 year old. In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. Charles Kuralt retired from CBS in 1994. She wakes Burke up and the two go downstairs together where they eat pineapple. (BPD Report # 1-645. Helgoth was tied to a supposed property dispute with the Ramsey family, which many theorize could have been a motive for possibly kidnapping JonBent. (BPD Reports #1-1874, #26-144, #1-41, #1-162, #1-204, #1-304, #1-2622, #5-297, #5-371, #5-2202) Could that Secret Santa have been the killer and someone JonBent knew? While there, CNN reports that he allegedly gave JonBent a card that read, "You will receive a special gift after Christmas.". She was abused, tortured, andfinally killed. Shortly after Ramsey was found dead, investigators pursued a number of suspects, including the 6-year-old's parents, Patricia and John Ramsey but the couple weren't the only suspects on the investigators' radar. The McReynolds said at the time that the coincidences between their daughter's abduction, the play, and JonBent's death were all just coincidence. Former Kidnapping charge was a botched $113 gas station robbery in Arizona, where he forced clerk to move from Point A to Point B, thus the kidnapping charge (ST Pg 114, DOI pg167), He had come home from the Christmas party at his parents home, had a drink of scotch, swallowed some powerful prescription drugs he took for depression, and gone to bed alone, not awakening until late the next morning. Larry McReynolds, who is a NASCAR on FOX analyst and a two-time Daytona 500 winning- crew chief, congratulated his daughter and to-be son-in-law on this occasion. JonBent's mother, Patsy, called police initially believing that her daughter was missing after a ransom note was found on the staircase. JonBent Ramsey was 6 years old when she was murdered in her Boulder, CO home on Christmas night 1996. Email us at exclusive@the-sun.com or call 212 416 4552. However, physical evidence suggested that those details were part of a set-up. I was amazed. Both children were then released. (Bill McReynolds), He visited adult book stores and admitted to having a long-withstanding admiration for porn. Gary Oliva was a known sex offender in Colorado when JonBent was murdered. Interview with Jill McReynolds: The Man Behind the Beard In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. He was arrested on drug charges but was soon released. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. "I didn't make the connection as much as I felt that this area should be investigated by the authorities because of the similarities between what I'd seen online [of child pornography] and the child's murder," he explained in .css-tjvzc4{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:inherit;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;border-bottom:thin solid #6F6F6F;}.css-tjvzc4:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}an interview with the Computer Crime Research Center. @mkmcreynolds1 I never knew I could feel so much love for someone until I met you. Another was Michael Helgoth, an electrician who worked at a nearby auto salvage yard. As far as I can find (so far), nobody knows where that footage is, Also, the police reports regarding this attack can be found here. JonBent had led McReynolds by the hand on a tour of the house during the 1995 Christmas party, including her bedroom and the basement to see where the Christmas trees were kept, and had given him a vial of glittery stardust to sprinkle in his beard. The Boulder Police Department was hit with a lot of criticism due to their handling of the investigation. (Thomas), Jesse McReynolds, now thirty-eight, had botched a $113 gas station robbery in Arizona during which he forced the clerk to move from Point A to Point B. Yet, when the case was reopened in 2009, the intruder theory was brought once again as a possible option. It's not easy to unpack all of that garbage and approach the case with fresh eyes. I would love to know why his red Santa suit was never taken in and fibers from it never compared to the red fibers found on JonBenets shirt and on the garotte. JonBent Ramsey was 6 years old when she was murdered in her Boulder, CO home on Christmas night 1996. In 1977, Janet gave a local paper an interview and said "I've always been interested in the way victims frequentlyseem to seek their own death, or to deliberately choose their own murderer. When did that happen? The outlet reported that on Dec. 26, Burke denies any wrongdoing and they believe him, but they also realize the situation makes Burke look really guilty and he will be blamed and taken from them. I hurt a little girl.. Promise. Blood sample? The Best Valentines Day TV Episodes For Kids, Chrissy Teigen & John Legend Have Welcomed Their New Baby, Prince Harry Says Hes Worried One Of Prince Williams Kids Will End Up As The Spare, By subscribing to this BDG newsletter, you agree to our. A book by Kate Millett, The Basement, details the murder. (It's also speculated that Patsy lashed out after finding that JonBenet had wet the bed.) Another eerie Her case remains unsolved. However, physical evidence suggested that those details were part of a set-up. Supposedly Bill was but Im a little more curious if Jesse ever was. A little boy who was a special friend had been murdered several years previously (Thomas). Gosage took it back down the hill to the gas station and handed it to the technician from the CBI. Ramsey Home Walkthrough - 3D Computer Model. They wouldnt have any reason to think the situation looked particularly bad for them. I'm wondering if those fragments could be the same glitter that Crying Santa Bill wanted mixed with his ashes upon his death. They didn't follow procedure with the nail clippers. Thus the kidnapping charge. According to Ollie Gray, a private investigator hired by the Ramseys, "Helgothand his accomplices committed the crime. 2023 BDG Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Their daughter's ordeal "makes you sensitive to the horror" of JonBenet's murder, Janet McReynolds said. How about Jesse though? I know the BPD claims the family gave them blood samples but, were they tested? He had been living in the area on and off and when police allegedly found a magazine with pictures of the girl in his backpack. Access Graphics had passed $1 Billion Sales mark. (BPD Reports #1-1874, #26-144, #1-41, #1-162, #1-204, #1-304, #1-2622, #5-297, #5-371, #5-2202) Could that Secret Santa have been the killer and someone JonBent knew? Burke tells his parents he went downstairs with JonBenet and they realize he is the last one to see her. September 5, 2002. Also, using the words of one of the handwriting experts, it's extremely unlikely for a random killer to have a handwriting so uniquely similar to Patsy's. .. John reveals stranger stayed in daughters room Do you think JonBenet was in the wine cellar when Fleet JDI folks - where do we land on the ransom note? Heres How to Shop for Them. He has been cleared and my humble opinion is that he was a fall guy. I've asked my wife to mix the star dust JonBent gave me with my ashes. sometime this fall. This seems really strange and coincidental. Gosage was met by an irate Jesse McReynolds, who said he was sick of you guys trying to frame my dad. Bill McReynolds, distraught, weeping, and saying, I didnt do anything, refused to come to the door. What about chronic sexual abuse of JonBenet? There have been over 140 suspects since the police began their investigation. Lengthy interview? (SMF P 283; PSMF P 283.)" And 20 years later, the conversation will likely continue on a mainstream level. A minuscule amount of mixed DNA (from different locations and multiple foreign sources) doesn't prove much - unless someone cleaned up afterward, there should have been much more evidence from a single profile left. The day after Christmas in 1996, the body of 6-year-old beauty pageant queen JonBent Ramsey was found in the basement of her parents Boulder, Colorado home. Because of their proximity to the family, the couple was questioned in February of 1997 after returning from a vacation in Spain. OK. Whatever we wanted, he gave, and Jesses handwriting eliminated him as the author of the ransom note. Two I've asked my wife to mix the star dust JonBent gave me with my ashes. According to The Daily Camera, the McReynolds' middle daughter, 9-years-old at the time, was abducted on December 26, 1974, and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. His DNA under JonBenets fingernails is the only trace of him left behind. I wish McReynolds had been made to explain why he lied to Patsy. We also should have separated John and Patsy and gotten full statements from them that day. For many years, JonBents parents and brother, Burke, who was 9-years-old at the time of her death, were considered the main suspects until they were cleared of suspicion. OK. But it wasn't just Santa that investigators were interested in. Other suspects included neighbor Bill McReynolds, a local Santa Claus who visited the Ramseys a few days before the girls death. In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. The McReynolds vehemently denied any involvement in JonBent's murder and Janet stated that the couple felt "sensitive to the horror" due to what had happened to their own child. I was thinking Bill may have wanted to have a party at JBs house in order to unlock her balcony door. The real Killer doesn't know the Ramsey's personally so he is never questioned or identified. Was it an intruder? John and other family members were cleared of suspicion through a handwriting test, but police couldnt conclusively determine if Patsy wrote the letter. There's no doubt about it. I don't know anyone who did who believes the "Intruder" theory. It was later revealed that the note was written on stationery found in the familys home. But then when you get to handwriting on the note, both parents' fibers on the body, the evidence of previous abuse, the families behavior, the random fact of the late night pineapple, the way she was redressed, the Barbie nightgown, all the weird little details, it all falls apart. John Mark Karr confessed to murdering JonBent in 2006. Tracey reported Karr to the police who arrested him in Bangkok. Was their DNA tested? Nearly $20K LESS than John's Christmas bonus. It was later revealed that the note was written on stationery found in the familys home. Janet McReynolds said in the same interview that her 1970s play sounded "quaint" in light of the Ramsey murder and only made her family more empathetic to the Ramseys' loss. But they also know that he couldn't have written the note and they know that neither one of them wrote it or did anything wrong because they were together the entire time. An Associated Press report from March 1997 stated that McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned less than six weeks after the murder. The outlet reported that on Dec. 26, 1974, the couple's 9-year-old daughter had been kidnapped along with her friend and she witnessed the sexual abuse of her friend during the trauma. Kolar scoured through lab and police reports, witness statements and other information when he took over the case. were officially cleared of any involvement in the murder, JonBenet Ramsey's murder, including Bill McReynolds, the man hired by Patsy to play Santa Claus at the Ramsey family's Christmas parties, McReynolds and his wife, Janet, were initially questioned, police sources never considered he or Janet "serious" suspects. Blood sample? I was in my early twenties when this all unfolded. on July 8, 2020, Longmont Police Department records on the December 26, 1974 kidnapping of Jill McReynolds (daughter of JonBenet Ramsey murder suspect "Santa" Bill McReynolds) and her friend by an unidentified pedophile, There are no reviews yet. How do you explain all the points in the crime scene of Patsy's.. inside the paint tray, the sticky side of the duct tape, embedded into the ligature? McReynolds daughter was kidnapped 22 years before which caused more suspicions towards him. I don't recall even seeing a photo of one that was actually put up in public in Colorado. Doesnt hold up to Occams Razor. For years, JonBent's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey were blamed for possibly having some involvement in their daughters murder. Many of the similarities between the Ramsey case and McReynolds' play come from these allegations of sexual molestation. Because almost none of it is supported by anything - there is nothing to imply that McReynolds was interested in snuff movies, could have hired a killer, that the killer recorded anything, etc. If he didn't do it, then there is no evidence against him. When I'm not writing, reading, or lost in the vortex that is the Internet, I can usually be found stuffing my face with food and obsessing over the nearest dog. Particularly older people who were around in the mid nineties. Burke is woken up and questioned. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I am not accusing anyone in particular, just pointing out the multiple bizarre similarities and things that give me pause. He's quoted as saying: It seems likely that McReynolds was questioned because, like many others, he had been in the Ramsey home and interacted with JonBent in the days leading up to her death. No suspects were ever found in the case, but both children were found. What were they planning to do with the body? I think a lot of us that lived through it were once upon a time RDI. Following the success of shows recounting murder cases and trials like, The People v. O.J Simpson, and Making A Murderer, both CBS and Lifetime are bringing JonBent's story to TV this year. We have a tape from him . . it was a tribute to JonBenet or something like that. My thoughts on The Amy Attack, The "Trinity" assault, the Ramsey experts and insane overconfidence, Pop Mystic - Search TV Show and Movie Scripts. The only play the public has been made aware of was Hey Rube which was based on the true story of Sylvia Likens, a young girl who was held captive in an Indiana basement in 1965. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. The woman said that on Christmas Eve day in 1996, JonBent said Santa had told her he was going to make a secret visit to her after Christmas. I believe the killer was someone McReynolds knew and was possibly a relative of his. This would explain why a neighbor thought they saw John Andrew approach the house the evening of the murder. Ramsey Home Walkthrough - 3D Computer Model. Thankful that God blessed me with such an amazing woman in my life that not only loves the Lord, but challenges me to be a better man. For many years, JonBents parents and brother, Burke, who was 9-years-old at the time of her death, were considered the main suspects until they were cleared of suspicion. She was a member of First Baptist Bluegrass. Gary Oliva was a known sex offender in Colorado when JonBent was murdered. Why did he even write it in the house? I never saw her that way, said Irene Wills, whose daughter Lucinda was John Ramseys first wife. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. We Got You. I felt very close to that little girl. It wasnt until 2008 when the Boulder County District Attorneys office ruled that the Ramseys were no longer considered suspects thanks to newly developed DNA sampling and testing techniques. He kept saying it was only a matter of time before they are arrested. I lived through the he saga as an adult and I know several people that believe the Intruder theory. He carried it to the hospital as a lucky charm during the surgery. Karr had been living in Thailand, avoiding child pornography charges in the US. "This was her speculation based on what she claimed she went through as a child. He was very strange, in the way that when he went into heart surgery he brought a vile of glitter JonBenet had given to him when he played Santa Clause. Why not take JBR from the home and to a secluded place where they could do a lot more than just take a few pictures. JOHN RAMSEY: . We have some letters from him. The story of the girls brutal murder is a hot topic of discussion as her killer was never brought to justice. "In late November, Helgoth had told me that he and a partner were going to make a great deal and they each will bring in around $50,000 or $60,000," he told theDaily Mail. It was unusually long and there were no fingerprints found on it except for Patsys and the authorities who handled it. JonBenet is alone when the killer emerges from his hiding place and strikes her with a heavy object (likely the flashlight) He takes her down to the basement where he ducktapes her mouth, sexually assaults her and strangles her with the garrote, snuff movie style. Karr had been living in Thailand, avoiding child pornography charges in the US. Why not write a confession letter by Patsy and mail it to the police. When Bill died in 2002, The Daily Camera emphasized that police sources never considered he or Janet "serious" suspects. DeMuth confronted Santa Bill, convinced that the cord being used to lash down a tarpaulin was like the cord used in the murder garrote. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Almost 20 years after the 6-year-old child beauty queen was found brutally murdered in the basement of her family's home, it seems like almost everyone has a theory as to who did it or what happened. Just because he saw JonBenet last? McReynolds and her husband, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado at the time of JonBent's murder, were at the Ramsey home on December 23, 1996, playing Mr. and Mrs. Claus for the kids. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I don't know anyone who did who believes the "Intruder" theory. "Alibi- home in bed, On December 26, 1974, twenty-two years before JonBent was reported kidnapped on December 26, 1996, the nine-year-old daughter of Janet McReynolds, the wife of Bill McReynolds, was kidnapped. When the Ramseys went on TV and held up the small poster it was a bizarre performance. So how could there be dna from this accomplice? Their desperation to protect Burke leads them to lie about certain little things which only makes them look guiltier. Since it was Christmas, the department was short-staffed and was not prepared for the scene they were faced with at the Ramsey House. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. According to CNN, an original prosecutor on the Ramsey case claimed that Bill had given JonBent a card with the message: "You will receive a special gift after Christmas." Two days prior to JonBent's murder, former University of Colorado professor Bill McReynolds dressed up as Santa Claus at the Ramsey household for the third year in a row. You have her pad and a wrote it with her pen and can match her handwriting. Patsy was loopy on drugs. Thus the kidnapping charge. To perhaps no one's surprise, this has been debunked multiple times, and prior to Katy Perry, the theory was that JonBent was actually Lady Gaga. However, the connections turned out to be purely coincidental, as both Bill and Janet submitted hair, handwriting, and blood samples and were cleared of any involvement in the crime. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The Ramseys protested their innocence for years, appearing on national television to tell their story. Be the first one to, Jill McReynolds abduction documents from Longmont PD, Advanced embedding details, examples, and help, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). One of the most heated debates surrounding the case is the theory that JonBent might have been murdered by an intruder. In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. Karrs confession made international headlines but he was later dismissed as a pedophile who was after fame. We may earn commission from links on this page, but we only recommend products we love. A window in the basement was broken and an unidentified footprint was found at the scene. Where is this info coming from? They tell him to go back to bed and agree to deny he was ever up. Additionally, the McReynolds' 9-year-old daughter was reportedly abducted on Dec. 26, the same day JonBent was found dead, only years prior in the 1970s. He didnt remember, it was so long ago, about twenty-five years. The McReynolds supposedly refused a search of their house and the police never pursued a search warrant. "And because I'd been told by cyber-crime specialists that JonBent was precisely the kind of child, because of her beauty pageant experience, who could be sucked into the world of child porn. One of the major twists in the investigation of the murder of JonBent Ramsey is that detectives interviewed Bill McReynolds, a friend of the family, because he had played Santa Claus at a Ramsey Christmas celebration two days before the 6-year-old's body was found. The South Carolina native got engaged over the weekend to Kendall McReynolds, daughter of two-time Daytona 500 winning-crew chief and NASCAR on FOX analyst Larry acting incredibly suspiciously around the time of the murder, I wonder what it would be like to crack a human skull, You will receive a special gift after Christmas, a fictionalized account of the 1965 torture and murder of Sylvia Likens in Indiana, it's also not the first time that a murder has been blamed on an owl, Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. (BPD Report #1-568. ", While at first, Singular's theory might seem a little far-fetched, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility: One of the former suspects in the case, Gary Howard Oliva, was arrested last June after he uploaded several sexually explicit photographs of children to his email account. According to The Daily Camera, the McReynolds' middle daughter, 9-years-old at the time, was abducted on December 26, 1974, and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. I'm Gina, the night editor here at Cosmopolitan.com! But to this day, the case still remains cold. The correspondence took a disturbing turn, with Karr talking about his sexual fascination with JonBent. Just want to post this publicly on record in case the new DNA testing that's being done proves me right. All because they thought Burke might be arrested for eating pineapple with JonBenet? Learn more about the latest eNASCAR event schedule, Go to BetCenter for the latest NASCAR odds, news and analysis, Kevin Harvick to appear on Stacking Pennies, 23XI Racing taps Travis Pastrana for Daytona 500 bid, Sellout grandstand, camping crowd heightens Daytona 500 anticipation. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. (Thomas), Spent two and a half years in an Arizona prison for conspiracy, aggravated robbery and kidnapping and had no corroborated alibi for Christmas night 1996. I believe the killer was someone McReynolds knew and was possibly a They search the house and find JonBenet murdered. In 1977, Janet gave a local paper an interview and said "I've always been interested in the way victims frequently seem to seek their own death, or to deliberately choose their own murderer. (Bill McReynolds), Good idea, I may take my ashes somewhere when I die too. https://t.co/mbz7yh9Ug3, Larry McReynolds (@LarryMac28) January 18, 2021. Now, twenty-five years after the shocking discovering, there are still many unanswered questions about the case as experts and amateurs alike try to uncover what happened that night. See Page 1. One of America's most famous unsolved cases is undoubtedly the murder of JonBent Ramsey in Boulder, Colorado and CBS has opened its own investigation with the two-part special The Case Of: JonBent Ramsey. Karrs confession made international headlines but he was later dismissed as a pedophile who was after fame. (Thomas), When I die, I'm going to be cremated. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF.
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