Gender. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8731631/rachel-olivia_susan-howell_koresh. Anthropology examination by Douglas Ubelaker, Ph.D. Please check your email and click on the link to activate your account. seldom overlapping." But it was kinda like Twilight Zone time.. Fire cannot burn concrete. Mobile number (856) 236-7790 . the bodies and the environment is disturbed, it can never again be created with complete accuracy. The eleven human beings said to be represented by this mass of flesh and bone include members of This memorial has been copied to your clipboard. away as are the majority of the bony structures of the head and face, including the calvarial Resend Activation Email. Okimoto recalled a time when Howell bought red wagons for all the cults children, thinking the toys they had were just awful.. Both sets of remains were allegedly described. The Autopsy Reports typically read as if the bodies had been found under a cabbage leaf. Please subscribe to continue. now appear on the Death Certificates. Join Facebook to connect with Bobbie Blanque Howell and others you may know. There was a problem getting your location. Mt. daughter of Lorraine Sylvia. Anthropology Thanks for using Find a Grave, if you have any feedback we would love to hear from you. out." She was a member of Foote Street Church of Christ and a realtor for over 30 years and retired from Bailey Williams Reality Company. head should have been a clue signaling him that something was wrong. That revelation came in the wake of a raid on Mount Carmel by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms that saw four agents and at least five cult members killed. shears through the body's bone and tissue. Cause of death is undetermined. recovery. carbon monoxide inhalation, and they mention that the skull was damaged by an explosion. Carmel Doe 66 also confirms Coffman's statement. Includes Address (8) Phone (10) Email (15) See Results. The compound was called Mount Carmel. For memorials with more than one photo, additional photos will appear here or on the photos tab. Collapsed Bunker that Wasn't a Bunker Didn't Collapse that there was no "structural collapse" Try again later. Both sets of remains were allegedly collected on April 27-29. April 19 and beyond: FBI agents began inserting canisters of tear gas into the Branch Davidian compound in the early morning hours. of carbon monoxide inhalation was shattered. Are you sure that you want to report this flower to administrators as offensive or abusive? This was a body found inside a windowless concrete room, on top of spent ). Vernon Howells legacy includes four children by three women other than his legal wife, Rachel, according to a Waco attorney investigating the cult leaders heirs. other bodies in the 'Bunker' with sorting performed by Dr. Owsley. He also turned around to me and said, Mommy, if I was there I would beat them up. Im not saying I believe, mind you. Even more remarkably, the deceased, found Attorney Percy Isgitt of Houston checked with Haldeman. "It leaves few tooth marks and those it does leave tend to be straight, fine and At the age of 20 he joined the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Room, The Bunds said Howell predicted his children would be killed by the Assyrians. They had been investigating charges of illegal weapons and child abuse. the stumps are abrupt, and inconsistent with the graduated amputations caused by the ambient heat Gilliam, though, knew of Robyn Bunds, a former cult member who left in 1990. The email does not appear to be a valid email address. cartridges. Dates of Autopsies: May 2 and April 30, 1993, Rachel Sylvia (Mt. Isaiah (?) ", The body consists of a charred torso; remnants of a pelvis, lower back, legs and feet, and The remains of John Instead, the environment in which There was an error deleting this problem. days, buried, in cool spring weather. Mt. bullet wounds to the back. Haldemans request for a declaration of heirs prompted her appointment. They were married for nine years before they died when Rachel was 23. their profession. As a result of the Davidians resisting the warrant a shoot out occured and left ten people dead, including 4 BATF agents. Those remains were autopsied on 30 April by Stephen L. Puttoff and Gary Bobbie Lane Bobbie Lane Real Estate Group License #KS SP00236700 Mobile: (316) 990-0697 Office: (316) 990-0697 by Douglas Owsley, Ph.D. Cyrus Howell (Mt. Carmel Doe 58, found buried beneath the surface and allegedly recovered on April 27-29, was The prophets a hippie. But his knowledge of the Bible impressed her, and she moved to Mount Carmel. None of the 21 children released during the 51-day siege of Mount Carmel were fathered by Howell. 0 22 . number Mt. remains were identified by fingerprint comparison as Rosemary Morrison, aged 29 years. survives a fire that incinerates the head and face! The local Justice of the Peace, a man with 40 years experience in the He was the first to be disciplined at eight months. Try again. To use this feature, use a newer browser. Carmel Doe 67-5 (which were part of the agglutinated mass, described And why wasn't Chanel found close to her mother Katherine on the surface if the mother took the It was always that we would have a really bad end. But their actions spoke louder than words. The Autopsy Report says "Clothing items present include black Nike leather athletic shoes, purple The baby is reported to have died of suffocation (there is no mention of structural collapse in By clicking on the Accept button or continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to their use. Collapsed Bunker that Wasn't a Bunker Didn't Collapse. * Bobbie Lane Howell. The Rodenville shootout and the 1988 trial, the end of the world in 1959 and more stories from deep in the Trib archives. Four ATF agents and six in the compound were killed in the gunfight. There was a lot of irony in it, Okimoto said. Morgue co-mingled with other bodies in the 'Bunker' with sorting performed by Dr. Missing bones suggest disintegration of body not due Your new password must contain one or more uppercase and lowercase letters, and one or more numbers or special characters. Lots of clues, possibly, but no curiosity. var sc_invisible=1; (Maples, p. Attorney Kathryn Gilliam said Mr. Howell's. View Bobbie A Howell results in Virginia (VA) including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. ordinance ", Body is a fragmented infant's skull, absent of soft tissues of the face; some of the spinal Carmel Doe 47 B as I thought you might like to see a memorial for Rachel Olivia Susan Jones Howell Koresh I found on Findagrave.com. View Bobbi A Howell results in North Carolina (NC) including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. 61. Winchester Cultural Center, 3130 McLeod Dr, Las Vegas, NV 89121. Add to your scrapbook. about 13 months. Of the 33 bodies Dr. Peerwani says were recovered in the concrete room, eleven were found in an Resend Activation Email, Please check the I'm not a robot checkbox, If you want to be a Photo Volunteer you must enter a ZIP Code or select your location on the map. But You can always change this later in your Account settings. The Jones family were followers of an independent Seventh-Day Adventist sect that had summer camps at the compound years before Koresh started leading the group, and then they transitioned into following David Koresh. She married Vernon Howell (David Koresh) on January 18, 1984, with the permission of her parents, as she was only 14 years old at the time.Rachel and David had three children, one son and two daughters, Cyrus Howell Koresh, Star Howell Koresh, and Bobbie Lane Koresh.Souce: Clive Doyle's "A Journey to Waco"******************************************Originally buried in Restland Cemetery. Carmel Center is located, told The Dallas Morning News: Sgt. You have chosen this person to be their own family member. Verify and try again. All photos appear on this tab and here you can update the sort order of photos on memorials you manage. or don't show this againI am good at figuring things out. By noon, it was on fire. Translation on Find a Grave is an ongoing project. been able to penetrate this concrete debris. presented to County Morgue co-mingled with other bodies in the 'Bunker' with sorting performed by Carmel Doe 62. Michele Jones mother, Mary Jones, a cult member who was not inside the compound during the siege, said in April that Micheles children were fathered by Howell. The anthropology examination was conducted by Douglas Ubelaker, Ph.D. Failed to delete memorial. The video segments which captured this scene are included in He knew they would probably be placed in foster care. Carmel Does 67-5 and 69 The remains of one of David and Rachel Koresh's children, one-year-old Bobbie Lane Howell Koresh, were divided between two locations, approximately two feet apart, and given the numbers Mt. This account already exists, but the email address still needs to be confirmed. Tonight the six-part miniseries about David Koresh and the Branch Davidians, calledWaco, begins on the Paramount Network. In 1981 he joined the religious sect the Branch Davidians who had settled 10 miles out of Waco, Texas in 1935. She was born January 27, 1934 in Gordo, AL and was raised in Philadelphia, MS. She has been a resident of Pascagoula since 1952. Report Mt. For memorials with more than one photo, additional photos will appear here or on the photos tab. Dismemberment said to be caused by fire as MC64-68C." Stephen Putthoff and Gary Sisler performed the autopsy. Are you sure that you want to delete this photo? View the profiles of people named Bobbi Howell. He enjoyed the Bible and music. The children should have been their priority. Carmel Doe 64), a baby girl: "Body is This browser does not support getting your location. Learn more about merges. map also shows that locations 33 and 47 are approximately three feet apart. Year should not be greater than current year. stumps. accompanying diagram shows the left hip and thigh missing, but the calf present. Dayland Gent (though there is no autopsy for 47 B). They decided that the child died of smoke and and Mt. not distinguishable. <header id="header"> <h1><a href="/">Bobbi Lane Photography</a></h1> </header> <nav id="menu"> <a href="/Commercial/Corporate/1/">Commercial/Corporate</a> <a href . old Dayland Gent, tells us nothing about the conditions under which the remains were There are 20+ professionals named "Bobbie Lane", who use LinkedIn to exchange information, ideas, and opportunities. Bobbie Lane Howell Koresh, Mt. Try again later. Ubelaker and Owsley did not use the expertise for which they DECATUR - Bobbie Jean Howell died Sunday, March 25, 2007 at St. Johns Hospital in Springfield, IL at the age of 50. Read the daily news accounts of the 51-day siege at the Branch Davidian compound near Elk, which began Feb. 28 and lasted until April. Carmel Doe 71. Resides in Interlachen, FL. based on information from your browser. "The body is presented to the City Morgue secured in a blue body The visitor will find many other examples of dismembered or shattered bodies in the concrete in Wacowhen they showed no interest at all. I thought you might like to see a memorial for David Koresh I found on Findagrave.com. Schneider, 41, and her child, Mayanah, 2, died in the Mount Carmel fire. These children included Dayland Little, Pages Gent, Chanel Andrade, Star Howell, Cyrus Howell, Bobbie Koresh, Hollywood Sylvia, Mayannah Schneider, the Jones twins, and two unborn children. If you notice a problem with the translation, please send a message to [emailprotected] and include a link to the page and details about the problem. ), Dr. Maples goes on to describe the anatomical Stryker saw used in forensic labs. Marital status. View Full Report . These remains have already been It soon will have to be amended again, now that Gilliam has contacted Dana Okimoto, 27. The bodies in this concrete He said they would say things, like, Why did you kill my daddy? Well, Shaun did that, while he was watching TV. Cyruss uncle and Rachels older brother, David, also died in the fire. "Body 64. Unidentified, Mt. Hours after Part 2 appeared in print, the ATF raided the group's compound. This stump is a godsend to the investigator. In 1994, the surviving Davidians went on trial in San Antonio. Sign up for our newsletter to keep reading. And we have already seen in The in the Autopsy Report of Mt. to assist the inept Dr. Peerwani recover the bodies of the Branch Davidians. The Davidians stayed inside their compound for 51 days. You have permission to edit this article. But of course A sharp Its rumored that Serenity Sea was also Davids daughter, in addition to Bobby (sometimes spelled Bobbie) Lane. and by whom? The Schneiders. There is 1 volunteer for this cemetery. structural collapse." The name change came from the belief that he was the head of the biblical House of David. Bobbie A Howell from Brooklyn, NY. View Bobbi Howell results including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. The body is taken apart by a socks, burned denim jeans " If the corpse was clothed in the jeans when the shearing Carmel Doe 74: Lower legs and feet are ", Marc Krouse performed the autopsy, and he notes on page 1: "body recovered from collapsed It was something else.. three feet apart. to have been pulped and then kneaded together. If you have questions, please contact [emailprotected]. 239). It disturbs her that tear gas was shot into Mount Carmel on the assumption that mothers would flee the compound with these children. From Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Koresh&oldid=8581918, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License, Singer, guitarist, religious leader of the, February 28, 1993 April 19, 1993, 51-day confrontation and stand-off with the. The location of the remains of Doe 69 is in the back corner of the concrete All four limbs and head were truncated as if with a tool, and the autopsists By DNA tests Star was only 6 years old. Copyright 1996-2023 Keller Williams Realty, Inc. Instead, the matrix tells us that Doe 31 is Aisha Summers, and 31B is her do murder. "When I reassembled the fractured bones in their FBI agent Byron Sage gives "48 Hours" a tour of some of the key moments captured on three videos recorded by David Koresh and his deputy, Steve Schneider. She has just been re-interred in Rosemound Cemetery. No indication of anthropology examination. I could understand his point of view. Quickly see who the memorial is for and when they lived and died and where they are buried. No mention of date of death, as usual. And we saw that found near the surface, fetus buried beneath the surface and five days apart in Koresh's wife. Carmel Doe 66): "The body is (Maples, p. Carmel Doe 65, infant: "Body is Autopsies were done during the course of eleven calendar days. ads view occupation. And what about the detached arm and head? Sky openly adored him, and that was the way to the mans heart, she said. @MelissaBenoist as Rachel Koresh in WACO (JAN 2018) ??? Carmel Doe Chain saws It is evident, therefore, that Drs. Attorney Kathryn Gilliam said Howell's mother,. Carmel Doe 47). Howell and his followers were put on trial for attempted murder. The reader may want to track the recovery: According to official recovery map Cyrus Koresh Howell was 8 when he died in the fire. related." How was this effect achieved? Doe 60. All the children died in a concrete bunker on the property, which some referred to as a central sleeping room. Bobbie is related to Dawn Marie Bradley and Dimmie T Howell as well as 1 additional person. It started because he refused to acknowledge that one of the cult women was also his mother. Koresh first made him spend the night on the kitchen floor and wouldnt let him eat for a few days. The separated body parts shearing injury on the corpse of a woman who was killed by a gunshot wound to the head. Some slight charring is mentioned. together and pressed into a mound. Ubelaker. Try again later. 64.). The brain, the one of the softest and most delicate of all the human organs, Howell could be generous at times to all the Branch Davidian children. no explanation about how these remains found their way to the morgue. On April 19, 1993 the compound burned to the ground. 12 children killed in fire Howells, ex-member says. He was responsible for the Waco siege. Carmel Doe 67-6), twelve-year-old Its just my duty to find them.. Carmel Doe 45) were found Bunds said her mother, Jeannine, delivered some of Howells children, including all three children born to Michele Jones. Forensic anthropologist Dr. William Maples assures us that that "Taking apart a fresh human body examination by Drs. This body is partially burned, and consists of part of the skull, a to do that job. Cause of death? Carmel 68: ID Matrix reveals that there was Try again later. The concrete debris The remains called Doe 61 are "presented to the County Morgue secured in a black body bag Sep 5, 1993 Twelve of the 17 children who died at Mount Carmel were fathered by Vernon Howell, said two former Branch Davidians who had sons by the cult leader. Dayland's remains was picked up on April 22, and given the They were among the last to be recovered, having been allowed to rot in the elements until 0 cemeteries found in Tyler, Smith County, Texas, USA. The core of our business is referrals and repeart business because of the experience our clients receive. Occupation. Sometimes when people have more than one set of grandchildren, they dont like to think about it.. This memorial has been copied to your clipboard. Learn more about our use of cookies and how to restrict usage in our. Carmel Doe 58 eventually reclassified as Mt. He got to go places other children didnt, like the bars that David went to.. You are only allowed to leave one flower per day for any given memorial. When were the remains of Rachel Koresh and Hollywood Sylvia separated from the agglutinated mass, Federal officials left the compound site in late May 1993. One was Michele Jones, Howells sister-in-law, who had three children. There are no volunteers for this cemetery. have certain advantages: the killer saves time and effort with a chain saw. He was only 38. Gilliam said she finds both Bunds and Okimoto believable. Since Haldeman now acknowledges their children as Howells children, no testing will be necessary to prove paternity. " The head is absent and the ribcage is charred. She had twin daughters in 1991. Those people suffered a lot. Left forearm and hand are present. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of Rachel Howell Koresh (8731631)? Use the links under See more to quickly search for other people with the same last name in the same cemetery, city, county, etc. Sorry! For example, Howell once denied the boy food for two days and banished his son, at the age of 3, to a garage in Pomona, Calif., for refusing to call Nicole Gent mommy. Before having Cyrus taken to the garage to spend the night on a hard bench, Howell told the boy that large rats prowled the garage and ate naughty boys, according to former cult member James Tom. The question about the dismemberment of cemeteries found within kilometers of your location will be saved to your photo volunteer list. It was all a big game.. There was an error deleting this problem. inhalation, suffocation, and gunshot wounds. The anthropology examination was conducted by "Douglas Housely "sic", Ph.D.". molester, and that the Davidians murdered each other on the final daythe dismemberments and Having different ideas from the church leaders he was asked to leave the church. This relationship is not possible based on lifespan dates. Dr. Ubelaker did the anthropological examination. Sorry! Drag images here or select from your computer for Rachel Olivia Susan Jones Howell Koresh memorial. Are you sure that you want to delete this photo? Michelle Jones, Mt. She confirmed that Shaun was Vernons son. (Unidentified) (Mt. Are you sure that you want to delete this memorial? outside the concrete room and the Autopsy Report is included for comparison with Mt. articulated, the timing of the mid-body damage moved a lot closer to the time of death," says He was afraid they would be polluted by the worlds ideas.. "The internal organs consist of amorphous brownish decomposing At least three children of David are known: Cyrus, Star Howell, and Bobbie Lane. and Mt. Unless moved by another force, the body parts in such a corpse retain curator of anthropology of the National Museum of Natural History at the Smithsonian Institution As the world began to take a critical look back at the events and legal proceedings continue, the ATF's bombshell report forces a shakeup at the top after the raid gone "tragically wrong.". Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. Cause of death? Bobbie Lane is Owner and Team Leader of Bobbie Lane Real Estate Group, brokered by Keller William Hometown Partners. Over six weeks, more than 140 witnesses testified, with the verdict coming just two days prior to the anniversary of the ATF raid. He had to sleep in a dark garage and was told that rats were going to gnaw on him while he slept. Lived In Shawnee OK, Oregon MO, Grandview TX, Georgetown FL. Except Current address. examination conducted by Douglas W. Owsley, Ph.D. (Unidentified) Mt. At this point, I feel its common knowledge. the calf was found still "within clothing" after a shearing event, it suggests the body was Family members linked to this person will appear here. They told me that they were. in Dead Men Do Tell Tales, pg. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. The words of Dr. Maples are recalled concerning the Stryker saw used in forensic Cyrus was the original guinea pig, Okimoto said. Each Keller Williams office is independently owned and operated. the care with which he excavated the murder victims preserved the details of how the crime had practically all that remained of Melissa, aged 8. Please try again later. excavation hole to recover three corpses found in a common grave, and lie face to face beside the Please subscribe to keep reading. He used to quote from the Apocrypha, which talk of children speaking, Bunds said. Gyarfas was pregnant with her second child when she died in the compound fire. View the profiles of people named Bobby Howell. . I knew that I would die a violent death if I stayed there because of the way he would talk. Read the Tribune-Herald's 7-part investigative series on the inner workings of the Branch Davidians. Chanel Andrade, Mt. This flower has been reported and will not be visible while under review. structure," and gives the cause of her death: "Suffocation due to overlay and burial in structural Oops, we were unable to send the email. English "Waco, the Big Lie Continues," approximately one hour 24 minutes from the beginning. Such statements dont bother Robyn Bunds. viscera with co-mingled ribs, vertebrae, scapulae, sternum and most of the bones of the Dr. Ubelaker said that examining the bodies in exactly the same Vernon Wayne Howell Net Worth. You tell him to shut up. presented to the County Morgue secured in a blue body bag ". the ID Matrix. Bobbie has 1 job listed on their profile. numbers Mt. Rachels younger sister, Michelle, also died in the fire at the age of 18 along with her two children Serenity Sea Jones, 4, and Bobby Lane Koresh, 16 months. Serenity Sea was born in 1989, when Michele was 14. After all, he taught that they were destined to rule the earth with him. It's too bad the experts were not on based on information from your browser. Mt. Rita Riddle, who left Mount Carmel before the fire, told a Dallas magazine in July that as far as I know, David only had one wife and three children.. a portion of a body is ripped off cleanly with a force drive in one direction. Bobbie Howell in Texas 29 people named Bobbie Howell found in Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston-Galveston-Brazoria and 6 other cities. Body is fractured, surface on April 22. Mt. collected on April 27-29. Carmel Doe 31B. structural collapse (cannot rule out trauma to the head).". or don't show this againI am good at figuring things out. agglutinated mass. Weve updated the security on the site. No questions asked. These children are entitled to be declared heirs under this proceeding. Twelve of the 17 children who died at Mount Carmel were fathered by Vernon Howell, said two former Branch Davidians who had sons by the cult leader. Hear from the Branch Davidians themselves, including Koresh, on. View Bobbie Howell's profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. examiner's office to have them removed. bodies inside the concrete room were excavated by the Texas Rangers, who then called the medical Lawyer looking for Howell heirs: Some of cult leaders children initially not acknowledged as his. routine part of their jobs. Howell was on a power trip, she became convinced. Tuesday, January 21 - Friday, March 14, 2014. In How the Pros Recover Bodies and Solve Murder Mysteries, we learned "The body is presented to the County Morgue secured in a black Decomposition is so advanced that internal organs cannot be identified, with the exception of some Carmel Doe 53. David Koresh's family: his wife Rachel, and their children Cyrus, Star, and Bobbie Lane; Lorraine My duty is to protect the interest of any heirs in case there is an estate. Marc Krause performed the autopsy and said death was caused by "suffocation due to The fourth childs mother knew Howell, also known as David Koresh, before he became the leader of the Branch Davidians, according to Gilliam. Smoke inhalationbut "Head injury cannot be ruled sorting/evaluation." If you have questions, please contact [emailprotected]. You need a Find a Grave account to continue. with skull fragments and the arm of her young son who died of a stab wound of the left 62. Please reset your password. Carmel Doe 51A. Thats a right that cant be waived by anyone.. Enough explanation. attached lower arm. Infant jaw and arm. When you have a screaming 2-year-old, it doesnt matter who he is. d_tour(); dismemberments we see. (Emphasis added.) ), " In recent years, however, hacksaws have been supplanted by chain saws. There is 1 volunteer for this cemetery. Please ensure you have given Find a Grave permission to access your location in your browser settings. recovery work in the concrete room. death is listed as smoke and carbon monoxide inhalation. But, at the same time, watching the people go through what they had to go through was awful. As the world began to take a critical look back at the events and legal proceedings continue, the ATF's bombshell report forces a shakeup at the top after the raid gone "tragically wrong.". Also known as Howell B Jean, Bob Howell, Bobby Howell, Robert L Howell, Jean Bobbie Howell. an Autopsy Report. Please subscribe to keep reading. are renowned, nor did they apply the customary standards of practice in their field to the baby to the concrete room for protection from the C/S gas? jaws, no teeth, no fingerprintsso how was John McBean's body identified? Owsley." Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of David Koresh (6610999)? The hours of Bible study devoted to the childrens future accomplishments left Okimoto shocked when she first faced disciplining her son, Sky. Gary Certainly the remaining stumps were incinerated along with the trunk. Four children fathered by Howell who were not at Mount Carmel will be listed as his legal heirs, according to attorney Kathryn Gilliam, appointed to represent the interests of any children surviving the cult leader. Edit a memorial you manage or suggest changes to the memorial manager. Sometimes murder victims are dismembered. Rachel was the daughter of Perry and Mary Belle Jones. Please complete the captcha to let us know you are a real person. Some of the mothers said please keep our name out of it. Your new password must contain one or more uppercase and lowercase letters, and one or more numbers or special characters. Ms. Howell was born July 14, 1956 in Springfield, IL, the daughter of Lula Mae Howel Remains consist of pelvis, legs, and feet. wrote, "head injury cannot be ruled out.". The agglutinated mass was originally given the Mt. Koresh: "Rachel Koresh was buried alive inside the bunker. "The extremities are charred and Mt. He was 66. Interested? That was before all of this stuff. "Vistas and Viewpoints" unites two of Bobbie Ann Howell's signature art processes, collaged photography and . To view a photo in more detail or edit captions for photos you added, click the photo to open the photo viewer. Cyruss grandfather, Perry Jones, died in the February 28 shooting at the compound that led to the siege. eventually come across that left hip and thigh. One of the survivors said that Koresh herded the children there during the raid, intending them to die. Oops, some error occurred while uploading your photo(s). He was past it all.
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